tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post4324897075029235832..comments2024-03-18T03:36:07.739-04:00Comments on I, Lamont: SNL's "University of Westfield" ad: The reputation of online degrees takes another hitI Lamonthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14681877739319223934noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-69382782240108119142017-03-30T23:01:28.372-04:002017-03-30T23:01:28.372-04:00I recently completed the MBA program through UoP a...I recently completed the MBA program through UoP and I will be the first to tell anyone, it is no easy task! You have to be disciplined to stay on track and finish the program in a reasonable amount of time. I agree that the first couple of classes seemed "easier" than about the third class. It got serious fast! Anyone who takes the Accounting, Operations Management and Marketing classes will be fooled if they think you can pass without reading and applying the material presented. What I believe to be the toughest thing about UoP and other online forums are the 30-40% of people they attract. For example, in each class you are expected to complete an individual project and a portion of a group project weekly... The issue is this 30-40% of folks who come in thinking that everything requires little work, makes it difficult for those of us who take the education serious!<br /><br />Instructors... I had some great instructors and some, not so great. However, I never had any instructor who just gave me a grade (good or bad) without feedback. I always knew what was expected and learned from their feedback. AND... I never had an instructor who didn't reply in an expeditious manner. In my opinion, I think that the instructors are a step above most higher learning environments. In fact, some actually teach online programs at other well known schools. For example, one of my instructors also taught an online program at both University of Maryland and University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.<br /><br />Advisor... I cant compliment my advisor enough. I will refer to him as Matt... he kept me on track for each of my classes and routinely checked on me to ensure that I was engaged and not becoming exhausted. I have attended other schools (one being a Big10 school and I can say with confidence, the Advisors are very engaged at UoP)<br /><br />Lasting words... An education starts with a desire to learn. If you think attending UoP will be easy and will require very little work, then you are going to be very disappointed and will certainly be on forums like this bad mouthing the school and programs. Also, I recommend taking a break after 3 consecutive classes. I complete the program in 20 months and that required a non-stop schedule... its rough, very rough and I DONT recommend doing this!<br /><br />Online Degrees... Its my opinion that most who criticize an online degree... typically doesn't have one! Online education is very popular, catering to more mature audiences... sadly a persons age doesn't mean they're mature and disciplined to handle an online forum!<br /><br />Good luck... If you choose an online forum... UoP or another, be ready to devote time through each week and weekends to accomplish your goal. The negative comments are ridiculous and (in my opinion) come from those people expecting thing to be fast and easy.<br /><br />Employment... I have been with the same company for a number of years and have participated in many recruiting events. I will tell ALL young people... obtaining employment out of college with no experience is difficult (even from brick and motar schools!). I recommend you, at minimum, complete an undergrad with GPA higher than 3.75 or continue and complete a Master's program. You must set yourself apart from other graduates! FYI... my particular company doesn't even interview graduates with less than 3.7 GPA... Remember, you will be selling yourself to employers. The degree may get you the interview, but it is up to you to sell what you learned while obtaining the degree! <br /><br />Onward and Upward! (stole this from a previous instructor... good luck) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-82096897923017912182016-12-08T03:03:23.799-05:002016-12-08T03:03:23.799-05:00I almost never comment on these things, but I felt...I almost never comment on these things, but I felt like someone should hear what I have to say. It is utterly appalling to me that so many people are willing to put down the school that gave me a shot at a future. I am quite educated (though my math skills are lacking) and I currently hold a 3.25 GPA, after just 12 credits. I am challenged everyday in my courses, and I do spend every single day working on my degree. I average about 3 hours a night, 6 days a week, and it is not the hardest thing I've ever done but it is no cake walk. I see so many people leaving crap "filler" comments just to earn their 8 posts, but mine are not among them. If you want something bad enough, you will try hard. UoP gave me a chance when no other colleges would. This is my third attempt due to my own poor life choices that I will forever pay for. I applied and was accepted, and I can say I am damn proud to be a Phoenix.Biancanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-6108856625503525322016-10-14T17:36:45.119-04:002016-10-14T17:36:45.119-04:00I guess the program never taught you how spellI guess the program never taught you how spellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-85099751545536475752016-02-13T12:04:43.832-05:002016-02-13T12:04:43.832-05:00Thank you Anonymous. Knowledge is not a proprieta...Thank you Anonymous. Knowledge is not a proprietary right to be granted on persons by a college. It is the learner's responsibility to obtain, retain, and utilize that knowledge from whichever source available. Obtaining a University of Phoenix (UoP) degree, I do notice there is a spectrum of students; low performers, middle performers, and top performers. You choose which you will be. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00851486923674251686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-9046421610575859492015-07-01T14:12:58.798-04:002015-07-01T14:12:58.798-04:00I had an idiot boss at a tech company who loved to...I had an idiot boss at a tech company who loved to abuse his field engineers for not being "productive enough" while he spent all day at work getting his on line degree from University of Phoenix while on the company clock. He gleefully laid us all off in 2008 and got the chopping block himself in 2009. Now he is an FAA bench tech with a worthless degree and a lot of student debt and over 50. I hear UOP just laid off 900 of its faculty and staff and it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing closed in the next few years. What goes around comes around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-22259742068125157702015-06-19T18:32:32.764-04:002015-06-19T18:32:32.764-04:00I am currently an MSN/MHA student of the universit...I am currently an MSN/MHA student of the university of Phoenix. I don't understand how you were able to complete a program in Accounting without learning anything. I am so sorry for you because you have a difficult road ahead of you. During my MHA portion of my dual program, I took a class in accounting which entailed quite a significant amount of spread sheet information. I worked really hard to be successful in that class, since my background is nursing. People like you give UOP a bad name. well, I think you are a little slow, for paying all that money, and publicly claiming you learned nothing. I am looking forward to graduating next may, and I have learned a lot from being a student here. you can only get what you put in. <br />I feel sorry for people like you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-17235786998793997632015-05-16T22:31:53.647-04:002015-05-16T22:31:53.647-04:00I did my undergrad at Phoenix, started my MBA then...I did my undergrad at Phoenix, started my MBA then switched to a state school that was cheaper and better accredited. One class was waived even though I was half-way through the program. They do not have the AACSB accreditation that business schools should have. The networking is a million times better and is critical in a business career. You don't have to do any reading or hardly any work to pass a UoP course. My sister is finishing her bachelors at UoP now and said the last class was the first time she even had to look at the text book... I had the same experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-4438511901008029262015-01-15T21:57:21.969-05:002015-01-15T21:57:21.969-05:00Don't listen to these people. They have obvio...Don't listen to these people. They have obviously flunked their classes or have problems other than where they got their degree. There are important people that have a degree from UoP, some of them even work in the white house. I have professors at my school that came from UoP. They are accredited, and have been since the 70's. They are actually a traditional brick and mortar school, they just also offer online courses. They were one of the first to do so. Type in a college name and then UoP then faculty. I have found that UoP alumni are all over the place. They are expensive, but what college isn't? Yes they make a profit like every other business, but you do have to keep up a certain GPA like anywhere else. Good luck to you. anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798162113592774628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-56670411151721880402014-05-30T08:30:02.012-04:002014-05-30T08:30:02.012-04:00I love how many people on the internet are so quic...I love how many people on the internet are so quick to argue things like they know everything about everything, but they are too dumb to recognize sarcasm, even when it is incredibly obvious. It wasn't even subtle people. And then you have responses like, I had to write more than that all the time in college. Yes, but clearly no one taught you English up to high school level, because we do a whole section on satire in 10th grade people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-54755886975101528762014-01-27T18:15:39.152-05:002014-01-27T18:15:39.152-05:00The point is that an employee of the company that ...The point is that an employee of the company that owns UofP is sarcastically insulting UoP students.kclancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517976152051696245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-77031986484417063622014-01-12T12:48:59.440-05:002014-01-12T12:48:59.440-05:00I agree. I live in ew York. I went to U.B. for u.d...I agree. I live in ew York. I went to U.B. for u.dergrad and graduate school. I was accepted i. their B.A./M.S.W. program, but lat7er withdrew for medical reasons, completing my B.A. with honors. U.B.'s M.S.W. program is equally rigorous to their law school program. Upon completion of my degree, the local and national economy was shifting. I decided to scrupulously review U.o.P. M.Ed Adult Education and raining Program for its versatility. I enrolled and even doubled up on courses. Let me tell you and the internet world that their rigor was parallell to U.B.'s M.S.W. program. The work was rigorous, papers were extensive and thorough, group projects were even tougher than any I had completed at u.B., among many other obstacles. Furthermore, N.Y.S. has a rigorous education system. Its review board and standards are strict. I cannot tell you how many out of state brick and mortar school students have to start over here. I am sure that some things from u.O.P won't transfer here as well. I can say with absolute certainty that my U.O.P. Masters degree was reviewd and approved by N.Y.S. Board of Education/Higher Education with no concern. I now have a professional certification as a result. In closing, you should fight for what you work for. Education and its red tape seems to be purely political. It is you who makes it work, not just the school. If you see a problem with your program of choice address it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-78458797444590605552013-12-10T15:11:34.106-05:002013-12-10T15:11:34.106-05:00I am a graduate of UoP with both a BS in Business ...I am a graduate of UoP with both a BS in Business and an MS in Computer Information Systems. I did my BS on the ground (OTG) and I did the MS in the dual curriculum (1/2 online and 1/2 OTG.) Most of my instructors held a PhD from respected private and public universities like Columbia, University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma State University, and the University of Texas, but all had a Masters degree. Each of them also worked in the field of study they taught. <br /><br />I was concerned about the quality of the degree and some of the negative press concerning the quality of my education, so I visited with several of my professors on this very point. All of my professors told me exactly the same thing. The curriculum taught at Phoenix is no different than what is taught in a standard public/private university. While all of the details of a 16 week course are not always covered, the fundamental building blocks are covered, which is what a standard university expects you to remember. <br /><br />I chose UoP because I was a working adult and having a 15 hours per semester workload was not conducive to having any type of a real life while working a full time job and raising a family. I had too many classes and work to do, where at UoP I could concentrate on a single subject for 5 or 6 weeks. I had a wonderful group to work with, and we all graduated at the top of our class.<br /><br />As with any school or goal you set in life, you only get out what you put into it. I met those individuals that were trying to skate through the school, and I always made it a point to make the instructor aware of the problem. I never had any issues where the instructor was unwilling to address the problem. <br /><br />I have since gone on to continue a successful career in IT working for more than 1 fortune 50 company. I found great value in my education. I learned the fundamentals of information systems and coupled with my work experience I was able to hold intelligent conversations with individuals with 25 years experience in a career while I was only just beginning mine. I was also able to outwork a large percentage of the people I worked with and was rewarded by opportunity for my hard work. I have since started a business, sold it, and written a book and countless whitepapers covering new technologies and their use for business and individual use.<br /><br />I went to school with individuals that are now working for the likes of Verizon, Microsoft, CSC, Dell, AT&T, and regional technology companies. They chose to put their hard work and education to work, but maybe I was just a lucky person that was surrounded by a bunch of overachievers. Whatever the case, you would be hard presses to float through UoP without doing the work in my opinion.<br /><br />During my exit interview when completing both of my degrees, I made a point to let UoP know they needed to screen individuals better, and also to stop doing so much online advertisement. It's never a good thing when your university is advertising in the same places you find pornography. I've noticed that they do a lot less of that type of shady advertisement and have moved onto legitimate marketing practices. I consider that part of the learning curve for any business, whether for profit or not.<br /><br />I have no regrets for the hard work and effort that went into my education. I watched a large number of people drop out of the masters program because they couldn't handle the workload. Those of us that persevered have all been rewarded with great careers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14748200001562869808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-90509599245857473042013-11-21T17:47:05.868-05:002013-11-21T17:47:05.868-05:00Uhhh...that poster was clearly being sarcastic...Uhhh...that poster was clearly being sarcastic...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-38167021908010903982013-09-17T17:57:42.872-04:002013-09-17T17:57:42.872-04:00+1....I agree with you!!!! +1....I agree with you!!!! Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-13800173152642013502013-09-17T17:53:17.478-04:002013-09-17T17:53:17.478-04:00Let a University of Phoenix graduate school you on...Let a University of Phoenix graduate school you on something.....Check your own spelling, grammar, & punctuation before you knock on my level of learning & my school...Clearly you learned nothing from your 2 Masters Degrees from Texas A&M...<br /><br />I'll point them out for you...as you stated in your post: <br /><br />1. "I am aware that many of the best universites in the country, or world for that matter, offer online degree programs." Universites - what the hell is that A&M? After Math of learning at Texas A&M...<br /><br />2. "The schools goal is not education and knowledgeable graduates possessing valuable degrees, but rather, making as much money as possible, even at the expense of devaluing all university degrees but those from the most prestigous institutions." Check your spelling A&M Master of incorrect spelling!!! <br /><br />3. "However, the lack meaningful entrance requirements at UOP paints a very clear picture." A&M, try putting the word "of" in there somewhere...<br /><br />4. "requirements at UOP paints a very clear picture." Your subject verb agreement is off...The verb of a sentence must agree with the subject in number and in person.<br /> - requirements & paints - I expected better education from Texas A&M !!!! <br /><br />You've just been schooled by a UOP graduate & for that, you're welcome!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-78148276329458726472013-09-11T19:43:03.426-04:002013-09-11T19:43:03.426-04:00Well said and I agree with you 100% "A degree...Well said and I agree with you 100% "A degree is only a statement of a commitment to a program for a period of time. Only when you talk to someone and they demonstrate their skills and abilities can you answer the question if that person made their degree worthwhile"Derricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-46268586741296971912013-06-19T10:45:47.069-04:002013-06-19T10:45:47.069-04:00If you think that UoP is the only school with reta...If you think that UoP is the only school with retards floating threw college, your completely wrong. Its nation wide!!!! UoP just happens to be one the largest colleges so it's getting the most criticism. I feel like UoP is on par with other University's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-88762627733286250892013-05-16T12:38:43.318-04:002013-05-16T12:38:43.318-04:00I think the person who created the orginal post wa...I think the person who created the orginal post was making fun of UOP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-6343194016032826402013-04-26T12:28:26.030-04:002013-04-26T12:28:26.030-04:00Obvious troll is obvious.Obvious troll is obvious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-54716265209032020782013-04-12T03:15:28.935-04:002013-04-12T03:15:28.935-04:00To the upper anonymous, 5000 words for a properly ...To the upper anonymous, 5000 words for a properly formatted and referenced academic paper is somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 pages; so, your post makes no sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-7791926671275636462013-02-11T12:15:45.676-05:002013-02-11T12:15:45.676-05:00That was clearly a sarcastic posterThat was clearly a sarcastic posterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-81546103266856156062013-02-05T05:01:47.304-05:002013-02-05T05:01:47.304-05:00That is a great question Ebony, I think the stigma...That is a great question Ebony, I think the stigma of the UoP Degree is Sad. Yes, you deserve to be able to further your education without some high and mighty education snob looking down his nose at your degree. My niece just graduated from UNC Chappel Hill, double major. A very respected school and very hard to get into. She is working a hostess job and working a second job as a caretaker for a disabled woman while hoping that someone will recognise her skills with her fancy UNC degree. ( her current jobs require no college education whatsoever) With colleges being over crowded and working people trying to further their education, I think employers should look at the person with the degree more that the title on the degree. While I was going to school you could attend a private expensive school in my area and get college credit for work experience. This well respected private school was selling credits as work experience so I don't have much respect for academia snobs. I did my college degree at a traditional school the old fashioned way going to class every day but times are different and online schools need to be available to work around busy families. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-30455451046942350332012-12-12T16:57:14.277-05:002012-12-12T16:57:14.277-05:00Your first six statements are true, but your argum...Your first six statements are true, but your argument falls apart after that. I received my BA from a decent university that most people would recognize. I didn't have a great GPA so my choices for an MBA program were limited. My employer provides up to $10,000 a year in tuition reimbursement so I thought I'd try the U of P. Here's my take on the school:<br /><br />- The tests are a joke - it's open book and most of the answers can be found with a quick Google search<br /><br />- Most of the students in my MBA program are lower to middle lower class, blue collar types with poor writing skills. Many of them are working hourly jobs thinking that they'll be the next CEO somewhere when they get this degree - that's not gonna happen. You're not going to go from flipping burgers to a six figure income with this degree.<br /><br />- I earned my BA in English, and while I'm far from an expert, I am offended at the papers my teammates turn in for our learning team assignments. They are full of typos, grammatical errors, run-on sentences, nonsense sentences, and gibberish. These are the papers they have allegedly run through spell check, grammar check, and WritePoint.<br /><br />- The average response to DQ questions is not even up to par with what I'd expect in an undergrad program. The fact that these responses are acceptable in a graduate program is a joke!<br /><br />I will finish my MBA in the next six months, and I'm sticking with U of P because I wouldn't be accepted into a better school, and I appreciate the flexibility. I wish that the school would crack down on it's admittance policies but I don't see that happening - it's a for-profit school. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-75393522631080176592012-11-23T20:29:42.604-05:002012-11-23T20:29:42.604-05:00Online... what does that mean?
It means your boo...Online... what does that mean? <br /><br />It means your books are in PDF format, you don't have to drive to campus away from your family to learn. I study when my kids are asleep.<br /><br />It means your exams are done by you, through an online exam system.<br /><br />It means you take one class at a time in total immersion instead of trying to juggle disjointed study and assignments from different classes.<br /><br />It also means there is a mandatory attendance policy that is strictly enforced.<br /><br />Participation and interaction is mandatory as well.<br /><br />Papers are due nearly once a week, proving your knowledge of the subject matter.<br /><br />For those who think its just a diploma mill, think again. <br /><br />Its work, only less expensive than many other colleges because you can forgo the keg parties and childish Greek system crap. It is also more convenient. My kids don't have to cook for themselves for me to get an education.<br /><br />Also, I went to a school that sounds like "urdu", a very well-known school. I never saw a professor my entire first year. I was only taught by 1st year graduate students (working for a free scholarship) who had no experience in ANY field. At UOPX, My BS degree, I was taught by only master's degree holders and now in my MBA program, I am taught by only doctorate holders. No exceptions, I have never seen a "Teacher's Assistant" at UOPX. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7493231.post-19638630361030424842012-11-07T17:06:37.668-05:002012-11-07T17:06:37.668-05:00I have a bachelors in Information Technology speci...I have a bachelors in Information Technology specializing in software engineering. I currently make six figures a year, work a normal 40-50 hours a week (on call all the time of course, but that's the nature of what I do), and got it all through the University of Phoenix. The school is accredited, enough said. Whether the employers are looking for traditional school degrees or not, that's all personal preference. In general, employers don't care where you got it, as long as the school is accredited and the degree is real. I myself applied for many positions, and only received a few calls. That's the nature of the economy right now. <br /><br />For those single parents, working full-time with only one car, or whatever your situation may be, don't let these people talk you out of an education. You got it online, so what? I did, and I'm very successful. If you aren't sure where to start, look them up and request more info. I'm actually looking to going back myself to see what they have to offer in electrical engineering. Good luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com